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Thread: 4-cycles in Sprint?

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    that time frame fits.
    likely was the material
    possibly no heated dry
    back to the ol wash tub.
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    If you look back to the end of the flathead engines, they were allowed to be ported. This let the "haves and have-nots) be very close in enginetpower. You also had many different engine builders building engines, and traveling to many races.

    Sense then, you had huge changes in safety and economic circumstances, with a new engine package that tried to put the porting genii back back in the bottle. Add on that on the appearance of selective enforcement of the port rules. And the "clone" engines coming up and the engine builders flocked to that because they were allowed some freedom.

    Now, how to fix it? There may be no fixing it.

    One thing to look at is the way 4 cycles have been sold vs the way 2 cycles have been sold. 2 cycles are sold as packages. One stop shop. Depending what class you want to run. The old way 4 cycles were pushed, is Kart from one place, body from another, engine motor mount from 2 more places. I am sure people have put together packages and sold them that way, Margay is doing so with their Ignite chassis and races with the Arrive and drive (another thing HUGE with 2 cycle racers) So there is some looking at more of a 2 cycle solution for 4 cycle racers.

    Lastly and is nearly impossible to overcome, that is the 4 cycle racers are "lower class" than the 2 cycle racers. It is Easy to market the 2 cycles, Schumacher, vettle Hammilton all ran 2 cycles. The 4 cycles dont have that same heritage. So we dont have that same "stepping stone" selling point. perception will be hardest to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Hastings View Post
    Lastly and is nearly impossible to overcome, that is the 4 cycle racers are "lower class" than the 2 cycle racers. It is Easy to market the 2 cycles, Schumacher, vettle Hammilton all ran 2 cycles. The 4 cycles dont have that same heritage. So we dont have that same "stepping stone" selling point. perception will be hardest to fix.
    All notes very well taken. Sounds like I'm just another poor man racing in a rich man's league here haha!

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