I was hoping to have the schedule for Delaware posted this week. Probably going to be 1st of next week. Not had the go ahead yet.
You should plan on a practice day at the end of April.
Opening night to be Sat., May 1st. and racing every Saturday through the end of September.
I know we are scheduling off May 22nd for sure.

There will be some new things for Delaware Speedway this season. I am looking forward to Spring!

Feel free to post or PM me any questions.
Thanks
Mark Rieken

How does Junior 2 Yamaha going with a 4 Hole can and no restrictor sound? We have had a lot of complaints that the Jr 2 Yamaha class is too slow. I agree with that. For 2 Cycle Nationals the class will be 3 hole can and .850" restrictor, so going with the 4 Hole can would be something different to what you would have to run at Nationals. What do you guys running this class think?
We can run this class this way at Delaware for the weekly show, the IKF race would have to go to the 3 hole can and restrictor though.
Let me know what you think. Reply to this thread or PM me.
Thanks
Mark Rieken

Due to some requests, we will be adding the new Junior LO206 engine to the Kid Kart class. Very reasonable priced engine that can move up as your driver moves up.
The 2 engines will compete head to head in this learning class. It will also have a spec gear ratio.
Go to Briggsracing.com and check out the Junior 206 engine. --> http://www.briggsracing.com/

As always, your opinions are welcome.
Thanks
Mark Rieken

Mark, that is an excellent decision. Glad to see it.

WHAT ARE THESE GOING TO RESALE FOR? bolt on ready to go? what else are we going to need to run this and throttle linkage and motor mount?

Has anyone actually raced these 2 engines against each other?

Incorrect. They do fit on the kid kart. Check out Briggs. http://www.briggsracing.com/en/arti...rd-program.aspx Jimbo designed the adapter plate for it. www.fastermotors.net

As a matter of fact, I just seen one at the swap meet in Milwaukee this last weekend. It looked great.

Already fixed my post but thanks for fixing it after I did. Back to my question...Has anyone actually raced these 2 engines against each other?

I will say this, Briggs has mis-named this engine. A more appropriate name would have been the "Kid LO206" or the "Baby LO206". The word "Junior" does make it sound more like a Junior 1 engine. But it is actually comparable to a Comer C50.

My understanding is that Briggs has done the testing head-to-head.
WKA is adding the engine in the Gold Cup. Here is a link --> http://www.worldkarting.com/pg/news/2010-01/lo206.html
I think they should be fairly equal competition wise. Gear ratio on the Briggs can be adjusted to make it even.

Comers are selling for over $700 out of the box and then add the BP'ing that is required, we are talking expensive.
This engine with clutch and air filter retails for $499 and is a sealed engine. No BP'ing allowed or required. I like that. I would think all the Dad's that ran the Comer class would like the idea of a factory sealed engine to ensure a level playing field.
What do you guys think?
Mark Rieken

Here is my opinion...

After having 2 boys racing in this class I appreciate the things they have learned and the friends they have made. But I am happier being done with it. I have nothing else positive to say. So I will keep it to myself.

I think it is a great idea on paper and I am happy that Delaware Speedway is making this another option of engine to race in this class.

If the "spirit and intent" of this class was truely followed it would always be fun. The reality is it's not.

Ryan, I completely agree with your comments. My son turned 5 last month, I had full intentions of him running kid karts this year. However, after seeing how fast some of these kids are running with outlaw motors, and seeing one not stop for a red flag and bash into another stopped kart at full speed, I've been holding off. I hope the Lo206 is of similar speed as the unmodified Comer.

Jeff Jones did a great thing at Newton as well as all the syrup races. He split the groups into beginner and advanced. Then there was something for everyone.

this is a plus this motor slower than the kidkart motor blueprinted im against blueprinted motors in a beginner class as i myself has a blueprinted motor im willing to sell my kidkart motor for the briggs to learn how to race not to be fast my boy liked racing but when you have 1 kart that can lap the feild and thats not racing i agree make this class firm and have a comer class and a briggs class ill bet you will faze out the comers i like this comes with clutch and filter bolt on race ready yeah count me in everybodys on a budget as myself good timing mark i say do it

I think it won't be long till we see somebody buying them 5 or 10 at a time and cherrypicking the good ones.
People were willing to spend $3500 each on Comers, wouldn't be a problem spending $5000 for 10 motors.
Somebody will, or already has done it.

my used comer worth something i would sell my comer to get one of these briggs motors i agree racing will always have your select racers who will ruin it

I have the 2010 Schedule posted. --> http://out2win.com/tracks/dschedule.html

I should have the class structure posted tomorrow.

Mark Rieken

I have got the 2010 class structure posted. Here is the link -->
http://out2win.com/tracks/dclasses.html

These classes are for our regular races. We will be running the IKF Region 5 classes on those days.

We have added the Jr LO206 to the Kid Kart class. I will have a spec gear ratio for it soon.

We have added the LO206 Animal with 3 hole Black restrictor to the Rookie class AND a FH with a .375" restrictor on Methanol. I know the FH set up competes equally to the other engines. The LO206 set up may require a weight change, not sure yet. But we wanted to give you an option for an Animal without having to bolt all that weight on.

We changed the Junior 2 Yamaha class - see above.

Iowa Oval had some minor weight adjustments and we added a FH Stock Appearing upon request. Its weight may go up or down depending on how it does.

And lastly, we are going with UAS engine rules for the PRO class. All IKF Superstocks or Duals or whatever fit in there somewhere. And if anyone else has any Opens or whatever else around - bring them out.

Thanks
Mark Rieken

Mark, what is the thinking on the F200 in the oval class? Why is it giving up 30 pounds to the zoomer? (They should be close in hp according to the dyno sheet from UFranks - We had one come back from UFranks saying it is 20+)

The champ is 410 and you are going to require 420 on a flat kart? IMO, the flat kart at that weight is a back breaker and god hope it doesn't land on your head. IMO, the F200 shouldn't be giving up 30 lbs to the zoomer. We are running the F200 in the champ class with no weight breaks. The champs run pretty close, when I, Fred, or Bill ran the F200.

Iowa Oval F200 420 WOW That a lot.

Delaware Speedway does support Region 5 IKF racing.

Per Bill, we will be transferring points earned at Region 5 Heartland Dirt Series. If you are interested in running for Season points at Delaware and going to Region 5 races, we are going to make this happen. Now we are still working on how this will be accomplished. I want to make sure that there is a system in place so this works smoothly and without confusion. So I will be posting something to our website when it is all ironed out.

If you are interested in this, please feel free to PM me or call me at the shop.

Thanks
Mark Rieken
http://out2win.com/tracks/delaware.html

Just to be sure I understand.
Are you saying that if we run an R5 race at another track, we'll get Delaware track points for that event?

Dave,
Yes, that is what I am saying. If you run R5 Heartland at another track you can transfer those points into Delaware Speedway points.

There are going to be some rules (which I have yet to post) that will have to be followed for this to work.
Mark Rieken

Thanks Mark.

This may proove to be the single greatest idea ever to promote regional participation. For years the big deterent to racing regional or series races has been that missing a local race or two at your home track would put you out of contention for track championships or awards. This makes it possible for the racers to do both. Mark and Bill have taken the first step, it is now up to the racers to urge the other promoters to do the same. This would truely be a win/win situation for the promotors and racers alike
George

I was wondering, since Newton and Cherokee did not schedule any races on the Region 5 Race dates, can they now schedule races too and make the same offer?

okay I have a question, If I decide to run for points and participate everyweek there. I can still get beat by someone who misses races because they are running a regional race? Yes this could be the single greatest idea ever?

Guys thanks for all the positive responses. We have had a lot of really good feedback on this.

Justin - that would be possible. But the last IKF race is the last weekend in August, so you would have the entire month of September to play the points out. That is still lots of races and plenty of chances for points after the last IKF race.
In the end, this will hopefully increase participation in all the classes. That is what we are looking for. I can't speak for everyone else, but I want to race against a bunch of people not just a few. Hopefully this will work this way.

One more item, are Clone racers interested in a claim?
Thanks
Mark Rieken

Mark, What would be wrong with doing a tech at the track. Maybe the first three in a feature. That seems much better to me than a claim. All classes... Jim

YOU NEED PEOPLE THAT WANT OT STAY AFTER THE RACES TO DO THE TECH! IS IT IS EASY FOR THEM TO DO A CLAIM

Thanks Jim.
We can really do either in the Clone class. Tech or Claim.
I am looking for feedback from anyone running in that class or thinking about running in the class.
I don't really want to do both tech and claim. I have never been a big fan of claiming, but if that is what people want, then so be it. Otherwise, we have a tech procedure we will use this year.
Chris you are right. We will as always try and run an early show, so if we do have tech after, it will still be early.
Thanks
Mark Rieken

no claim
Under which rules package?
What clutch rule?
Not a fan of noram only rule.
Tony Beck