No Rich,lapping the valves is not illegal.

Guys, ya all need to quit arguing, this is a forum where people come to ask questions and learn. Getting into the gray areas of the rules isnt helping anyone.
If you have a legit question and you dont like the answer, PM Jimmy. This nonsense is getting ridiculous about who does what and who can do this.
Lapping the valves in not considered cheating and is legal. Removing the screw to have it teched is not cheating and is legal.
Now lets act like gentlemen here so the new racers can learn about karting instead of driving them away from all the name calling and keyboard fights.
By the way, its worthwhile to see Jimmys tech procedure, or at least see the tech being done by Jimmy or 1 of his tech men. You can and will learn a lot.

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I think the only gray area is created by those who always try to have an unfair advantage, and that's exactly the worst thing to teach new drivers, that either they bend the rules themselves or they find someone to do it for them or if not they will be in the back of the pack The problem here is many people hate being told the truth, and we are not talking anymore about the local low entry class, at this moment many of the Big Dogs are also racing in the Box Stock class and the purses keep growing too, so it is nothing to keep hidden from pubkic knowledge so some get advantage of a majority that were just looking for a cheap class to race at.

no such thing as cheap racing

the clone class was cheap this year.
but with different people reading the rules for there own benefit, the cost will go up fast.
Ty

Henry wrote:

no such thing as cheap racing
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Henry,

Wrong! There is such a thing as cheap racing

It is the winning at all costs mentality that ain't cheap


Mike

[QUOTE=skyrone]Quote:
Originally Posted by pitcrew68
Thats one of the dumbest things you have said. If you have a CC limit of 26.5 on the head , explain how you would know that untill you got into tech. Then if it gets thrown because it is under that whose fault is it, China's???

Your the only that can tech the throttle bore " with your special tech tool that no one else has " I remove the throttle shaft to check venture size . How do I know it will pass tech if I don't check it ?
Question which statement is the dumbest ?

DLogan Well, I'm sure glad you know how I check the bore. Sure relieves my mind knowing you have seen how I do it so I won't have to explain it to anyone else, It's not really that hard, This thread was started by cyclone to ask Dan or me a question. It amazes me how many people keep something going for no apparent reason. I answered his question along time ago.

Yours

I should say thanks and sorry for all the attacks you received, I never considered how such a simple question could pull up such strong opinions/emotions. We will always disagree on certain subjects as racers but I would hope we could do it with professionalism and respect, There is a thread on the 2 cycle post where 2 builders had a very diffferent opinion on motor results and the respect they had for each other was very apparent.. maybe we can learn from these gentleman ( the thread is about the old style yamaha jugs having a performance advantage) Thanks to everyone that offered their opinion its time for this thread to die..ron

Sorry Cy, I'm just tired of people who post things they know nothing about. If you need help in the future, just PM me, I try not to keep secrets that will help people, but theres just some people who don't deserve to know everything

he asked a question and if you wanted to post so badly,
tell us why you won't answer the question.
his question was valid.
see when someone asks a question on the forums you are the first to answer most of the time, and always the one calling names.
now dlogan asks pitcrew68 a question?????? and he won't answer it.
Ty

[QUOTE=skyrone]Quote:
Originally Posted by pitcrew68
Thats one of the dumbest things you have said. If you have a CC limit of 26.5 on the head , explain how you would know that untill you got into tech. Then if it gets thrown because it is under that whose fault is it, China's???

Your the only that can tech the throttle bore " with your special tech tool that no one else has " I remove the throttle shaft to check venture size . How do I know it will pass tech if I don't check it ?
Question which statement is the dumbest ?

you silly goose, thats why he said question before he asked it, correct???????
Ty

question??? do you think pitcrew68 showed professionalism and respect in his posts????
Ty

What is up with the cc change,what has happened that makes its necessary...to change the spec...

I did......

I found a neat thing under my profile edit, It's called an ignore list works great.

Well said.

Racers...the idea of tech is to catch cheaters, not DQ for variations in manufactures tolerences or send a guy packing who has never had their motor apart or who is just doing routine maintenence. The performance gains available on these motors from all of the areas mentioned so far in this thread would be negated on the track by a multitude of varables, if they were even measurable in the first place. For 99% of us, tires, chassis set up, and driver performance offer much more potential for real gains on the track.

By the way...Did some one say Jugs? I volunteer to tech all jugs!

Mewhorter, I sent you a pm

PM returned.

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Completely agree. Some people need to accept that there can be people that are better than you at something, you can be better than them at other things, not necesarily at racing. If you need to spend much more or interpret the rules your own way to beat someone that means that someone is better than you, very plain and simple. I have shared the tracks with guys that now are some of the best drivers in the world, I accepted they were better than me, and I don't feel bad for that. They are pros, some of them make millions of dollars a year for racing, that's their job, but I'm still much better than them at my job and I don't think their job is more important than mine, so where's the problem? You can't win all the time at anything. That's life.